Becoming Fearless
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Becoming Fearless
51. Finding Purpose Beyond The Office with Gwenne Dickson
What happens when you feel unseen and undervalued in the workplace? Can self-awareness and self-love truly transform your career and life?
In this episode I welcome Gwenne Dickson, an exceptional empowerment coach from Living Your Best Life Coaching, who reveals her remarkable story of transitioning from the corporate grind to becoming a beacon of spiritual empowerment. Gwenne shares candid details about her experiences with redundancy, discovering NLP and Reiki, and how these transformative tools propelled her personal and professional growth.
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Welcome to Becoming Fearless, the personal growth podcast for you if you are ready to overcome fear and step into your greatness. Our purpose is to help you overcome your limits, have loads of fun along the way, unlocking your fullest potential in life, business, health and relationships every single day. I'm your host, charlotte Carter, a high performance coach and entrepreneur with over 20 years experience. I'm your host, charlotte Carter, a high-performance coach and entrepreneur with over 20 years experience. I've supported many highly driven, talented people like you who dream big and are ready to take action to overcome what's holding them back.
Speaker 1:Each week, my guests and I will be sharing hacks and habits on how to build self-belief, courage and confidence, to master your mindset and navigate your emotions so that you can reach your human potential in a way that feels light, fun and easeful and helps you become fearless. Let's go. Hello and welcome to another episode of Becoming Fearless podcast. I am bringing to you today a guest episode with the wonderful Gwen who I met recently on a in a program that we're both in, and we just kind of had a conversation and the rest is history. But let's go into a little bit about what you do now, gwen, in terms of your business, and let's introduce you to the world and to the people who are listening.
Speaker 2:Thank you. So thank you for inviting me, first of all, charlotte. So I'm Gwen Dixon from Living your Best Life Coaching and I call myself an empowerment coach. Sometimes these things evolve as we're evolving. I'm an empowerment coach, I'm a spiritual empowerment coach, and really what I like to do is probably looking back on my own experience.
Speaker 2:I've gone from working in corporate for many years to getting the opportunity of redundancy, and before I got that, I was dabbling in a lot of things. I learned NLP. I became an NLP practitioner and then a master practitioner. I learned Reiki, meditation all the things that I was doing for myself, for my own development, for for my own empowerment, if you like and then I decided, when I got the opportunity of redundancy, that actually this was my time to transform things for myself and to transform things for others, because I'd wanted to do that for a while, especially with the NLP work that I was doing at that time. It really helped me to uncover a lot of things in terms of my purpose, in terms of what I wanted to do, and often reflect back on that Now. Things that were lessons at the time come round again in a new way now, and especially having like a positive ripple effect was what I wanted to do, and that's a theme that that rippled and echoes through my life. Um, so, yeah, I wanted to to to do the take the things that I had learned and used for myself, the tools that I'd learned for myself, to um, improve things for myself and then to share that with others in some shape or form and again, that that has evolved over the time, that I've done that and, as I say, I was doing it in the background for a long time for my own purposes.
Speaker 2:Really, at that point, as I was working in financial services, I was a customer relations manager and then went on to do another role within that company. I did many roles within that company but went in to do another role that kind company. I did many roles within that company but I went in to do another role. That kind of was a sidestep from being a manager and that was the right thing for me and allowed me to focus more on relationships and also allowed me to be. At the time, what was important for me was to only be responsible for myself, because, you know, being responsible for the people below you and being accountable to people above you can not be a good place to be If you're not in a good place yourself.
Speaker 2:So it was the right move for me to get a sideways move that allowed me to focus more on the things I wanted to do outside of that work, outside of that career, and to realize, like this is not self-love for me, this isn't where I want to be, this isn't where I don't see myself here until retirement. There's more for me and I need to do something for myself. But being honest with the, you know the, the type, the name of the podcast is becoming fearless. I probably wouldn't have became fearless and done that if I hadn't got the opportunity of redundancy that actually allowed me to to take a step back and allowed me to do something, to take a pause in my own life and reflect okay, what is it I want to do?
Speaker 2:I know what I don't want to do, um, and I broadly know what I want to do. I know what I don't want to do and I broadly know what I want to do, and it's then between that liminal space of where do I go and how do I do that and how do I support myself, help myself and how do I help others. So it's a very long answer, but you know that's. That's my background in a nutshell, I suppose. Thank, you.
Speaker 1:Let's just rewind a little bit on some things that you've said, because there will be people that are listening, that are in a similar place than you were in when you were in this corporate role and you were managing people and you were in the system, should we say, and there were people higher up, further on, above you whatever phrase you want, um, and you were in that kind of sandwich, um, and you knew that's not you, not what you wanted to do, and it's also like in your words, it's not a great place when you're not in a great place yourself for whatever reason.
Speaker 1:It's a difficult piece for people that are in that kind of space, because people listening to this will be, um, in that kind of like you, I'm in the corporate space, I know I'm here for more. This isn't kind of what I want to be doing. What sort of things were you doing and feeling? If you take yourself back to that time, I know you were starting to do some work on yourself, but what were the kind of frustrations that were going on for you that other people may identify with if they're listening, like frustrations that were going on for you that other people may identify with if they're listening.
Speaker 2:The frustration for me I suppose at the time that was that was predominant was a couple of things, but it was the, the, I suppose the emphasis on stats, kpis and all these things, rather than versus people, um, and as a people manager, um, and very much a people person, what I wanted to do was help people to develop, help people to, you know, give them that personal development side and help them to evolve and do the best job that they could. Sometimes you felt you know you have to fit people into boxes we have to, obviously, you've got to manage people and you've got to have ways of doing that objectives, goals and all these sort of things but sometimes we're so rigid within that. What frustrated me the most was that I felt like the aspects of the job that I liked and where I could help people the most were the ones that I had least time to do. And you know you're busy hammering people over the head with, oh, you've not completed enough cases, and I was a manager in a complaints environment, which is a hard enough job as it is people were dealing with, you know, the people who'd had the worst experience with the company and we wanted to try and turn that around. But then we were also, you know, performance management. Um, it's more it seemed more it was often used as a stick to beat people up with than it was. You know, uh, to actually help people to, to get, you know, empower themselves and get the best out of themselves. Um, and you know, I had a lot of frustrations with that and there was always that sort of dichotomy, I suppose, of wanting to do the best and wanting the best for my people but feeling that I wasn't giving them my best nor was I getting the best out of them because of the other pressures on me and the other. You know the pressures within the company and particularly within our area, and that sometimes came out, you know, um, because I did care a lot for for the people.
Speaker 2:I remember a time, um, and people might, might um, see themselves in this or have had similar experiences, where, um, we were having a um, like it was a celebration, it was like an award ceremony type thing, um, where you wanted to reward people for good performance or for what they'd done, achieved the year, and things like that. And I was speaking from the heart and and celebrating someone, and then someone else who, um, you know, was in my team at the time and he was, he was actually trying to help. But he interrupted me when I was kind of in full flow, really speaking from the heart and sharing what someone had done, and I kind of bit his head off because I was like, don't interrupt me when I'm trying to do this, and when it was something that meant a lot to me. And then I felt really guilty afterwards and had to kind of pick up the pieces afterwards because, you know, people were like, you know, there was this kind of you know um clash at the time, but it was, you know um, it was because it meant so much to me what I was sharing at that time and I was trying to be.
Speaker 2:I was in that space where I was actually having an opportunity to praise someone and to, um, as I say, celebrate their achievements, which we didn't get many of, and then I can't even remember what, what was said at the time. I can just remember the kind of repercussions of it and I suppose those are the moments when you feel like, right, this is not the right place for me or, you know, this is not the right environment for me anymore and I was feeling a lot of, you know, physical, mental, emotional impacts and so on myself, and that was why I was doing the work on myself that I sort of talked about, and I was spending a lot of time outside of work doing that, because I was stressed, I was anxious, I had physical symptoms. I remember waking up in the morning, you know, feeling like, oh, I don't want to do this, and I would wake up early and earlier trying to do meditation practices or ways to kind of set myself up for the day, just so I could get out the door and go and do the job.
Speaker 1:And so, yeah, I'm sure there's people will recognize themselves and some of those things yeah, for certain, gwen, and I think there's an element there, isn't it, that I want to touch on next, which is about two things really. One's about passion. When people find have something that they're really passionate about, it's like a yearning, isn't it inside of people and they've really got to get this out. Some people don't know where to start with that, which is what I want to talk about next. But I also want to talk about when people don't feel seen or heard, um, and kind of like, what behaviors come out?
Speaker 1:Because, obviously, at that, in that incident that you just spoke about, there was a piece where you were totally using your voice, using your passion, and really wanted to celebrate this person, and then you were just like cut off and not not allowed to or not given permission to, should we say and I know that's something that you and I spoke about in the spaces that we're in, but also it's something that's very, very common when people first start going into personal growth and development and they start to become aware of either when people aren't seeing them, hearing them, or they're not using their voice, they're quieting themselves down. Do you think that was a step for you, this piece of awareness about using your voice?
Speaker 2:Yeah, very much so and very much like to me. What I take from it now and I did at the time, and there's what I explained at the time. I had to kind of apologise for it as well, but also I had to explain that I was, you know, it was very much me speaking from the heart and and and um, and so it was like, as you say, that that place of passion and that that authenticity and that, um, it was unrehearsed or it was. You know, I had some as a message that I wanted to get across and that was very important to me and it was important that that the person who that I wanted to celebrate received that as well, and then this sort of wasn't a heckle. But that's kind of how it felt at the time. Um, you know, the, as I say, it was just some, you know something that kind of took me away from the moment and took away from the moment for the person who was meant to receive it, etc. And and it became something else. But yeah, it was. It's that thing of like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we want to be seen, we want to be heard, and especially in those kind of environments where there are pressures, environment, um, you want to be, um, you know, rewarded and recognized for the, the difficult job that you're doing and for the um you know, the efforts that you've gone to or what have you, and you want those to be, uh, celebrated.
Speaker 2:Of course that you course, especially in that kind of environment.
Speaker 2:I think in corporate we're often seen as monetary remuneration being the thing or you get a promotion or you get something that is quite tangible but actually the things that often mean the most are the kind of intang. But actually the things that that often mean the most are the kind of intangibles or the things that are less hard to to sort of to grasp onto, if you like for it, but it's those things that mean the most. Is that recognition, is that, is that thank you for doing a good job, and that's the thing that motivates people, or that's the thing that people remember and when someone actually does see and hear them and value them, um, over and above something on a performance management form or a you know, a paycheck, yeah, the paycheck's nice. At the end of the day, that's not everyone's um key motivator it's. It's um, you know, it's good and it's nice to have and it's we want to be valued, but there's so many other ways that we can value, value ourselves and value each other. Um.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, that was what was sort of key to me within that and I think one of the key aspects there is it, and I can remember and it's quite a common phrase now.
Speaker 1:It's like people will remember how you made them feel and I think that what that's what happens when people move from corporate. In particular, I've had clients who I've supported move out of corporate into setting up their own business and one of the biggest things is about, actually, when you're in your own business and you're creating opportunities and we'll talk about your business in a minute about how you help people navigate life and, you know, create this brilliant life that they can step into and embody. There's this piece around feelings and being brave enough and courageous enough and overcoming your fear to actually own some of those feelings, because some of them can be scary as anything, can't they? And they can be overwhelming and they can be, you know, a bit larger than life. So talk us through what happened when you were like I'm going to take this redundancy and talk us through that bit. You took it and talk through the day day one of you not going to that job. What were you doing then and what were you thinking was the business in your head then?
Speaker 2:or where were you? That was in my head. And and yeah, because I remember, even when I was at work and I was taking time off to do, um, my, uh, the beginning of my nlp master practitioner training, um, and I remember my boss at the time going, what, you're taking a holiday to do, that kind of like. He just didn't, didn't get that at all, thought it was weird though, um, but I was like, well, yeah, it's important to me, it's something I want to do and uh, so, yeah, but when I did actually get redundancy, I took a bit of time out to decompress, quite frankly, because I'd worked in corporate from when I was 16, I'd been there for almost 37 years and I needed a bit of time out for me. Um, so that'll tell you. You know, that was two or three years ago, so that again, that'll give you a clue to my age. But so was why I'm passionate about people making changes in midlife as well, that we can make changes in midlife and that we're not fixed in stone. You know, we can be who we want to be at any time and choose to change direction. But anyway, sorry, digressing slightly, but yeah, um, yeah, so at that time I was like oh, I just need a bit of time out to, as I say to, to, to be me and to give myself a bit of space and grace to find out. Okay, I kind of know, I do know what I want to do and I kind of know how I want to do it. I haven't got a clue really in terms of a lot of these things, because, you know, we've become so institutionalized when you work somewhere for that long I had loads of different jobs within that but ultimately you're used to someone else telling you you know what to do, kind of how you do it, and a lot of these things, and you figure out your own thing within that. But, um, it's. You know it's quite daunting to go from that to then being like, oh, I'm now, you know I have to be everything to myself and actually you don't.
Speaker 2:I was lucky that I had a network, like the way that we've discovered each other and found each other through you know, our mutual friends and the work that we do and how, the sort of cross-section that we have. I suppose I was lucky because I've done a lot of these things for myself behind the scenes, if you like that I had that network and also reflecting on it. Now, I was quite lucky the fact that it was COVID or lockdown or however you know that kind of precipitated, that it also gave us a bit of breathing space that they didn't do it during COVID. We knew that it was coming, that our jobs were getting looked at and that redundancy was a possibility. So that actually gave me a bit of time to go right. I know I want to do something here, so let's, you know, investigate things and also to kind of set up my network so that I knew that I was supported and working from home, working like this on a PC at a desk by myself, rather than a big office. That made that transition easier because I wasn't having to go from you know, working with hundreds of people and having loads of people around. We'd been working from home for a long time and actually they paid for us to. You know, the chair that I'm sitting on and the desk that I'm working at. My previous job paid for that. So that was a great thing.
Speaker 2:So that transition was made easier by that and I had a support network in terms of, you know, friends who had done similar training and were doing similar things and I was able to call upon. I'm like, well, how do you do this on Zoom, or how do you do this thing in the kind of business side of things. But also I had that, that passion for what had helped me get to the place where I had got to what had worked for me and that I had to use that for other people. I had that, as I say, um, that desire to create a positive ripple effect in my world that I'd sort of identified through that training and was like, right now I have to go out there and do that. And that's still evolving.
Speaker 2:As always happens with my work, I always kind of go first and I go through the things and I learn by doing, by embodying, by understanding, and then I'm like, okay, now I put this into my work and now that's the people that I, that's, that's the people that I attract, that's the people that I help. We're going through similar things. So it's not a cookie cutter approach or it's not a you know, here's 10 steps to do such and such. It's very much like well, here's what I've learned and have gone through and I've you know, um, what has got me out of that and what I've you know what I've put together through that and here's how you can adapt it. Here's how you can um do this for yourself and ultimately empower yourself.
Speaker 2:Because my aim for the people that I work with is, um, I want them to to to love themselves and to to to transform into who they want to be, and I want them to reconnect with and remember who they are and to discover their own power. Want them to reconnect with and remember who they are and to discover their own power and remember their own power and to ultimately not really need me. That's the ideal is when they're like I can do this and I can step into this role and I can embody that. And if they want to go and do something similar, great. And if they don't, that's ideal. It's like, whatever their best life is for them, whatever flourishing is for them, whatever sensational is for them, that's, that's the ultimate goal, that's the ultimate prize for me is to see someone doing that and being that.
Speaker 1:I love that, gwen. I really love that. So let's talk a little bit about the people that you really love working with. So so if people are listening, they're like OK, I like what Gwen's saying. I've had a similar background. I'm, you know, whatever age 40, 50, 60, whatever it is, whatever midlife span is and I'm ready for change or transformation. I'm ready to rediscover who I am. Should we say, or I'm ready to rediscover who I am. Should we say what are the kind of people that you really love working with? Is it men, women? Who are the people that you really like? Do you know what I'd love to help you? What are their characteristics?
Speaker 2:Mostly women that I work with at the moment. I do have some male clients, but I would say they're more hesitant. But also it's about my message and how I um communicate with them, I suppose as well, and invite them into this kind of world, into and um, you know, obviously we're on a podcast now. What I love, I love listening to podcasts, and what I love more and more is on the, the podcasts I listen to as people like, um, you know, stephen bartlett and and gosh I've been listening to a few podcasts lately with sports, sports people and, and guys in particular who are coming out now and saying I really struggled with my mental health, or, yeah, I was this type of person when I was that and achieved these things, but actually, um, now I'm much more about this. So I'd love to move into that kind of world where I can um, have those conversations or work with men more to um, to like, enable them to kind of come out the closet, if you like, and not feel like they have to meet male stereotypes and be a certain person who has it all together or, um, you know, feel like they have to be a role model in a certain way and that means they have to suppress their feelings or not talk about them, or, or you know, all the kind of um tropes that we have around masculinity and so on. But for the moment it's mostly women that I work with, um, and, and that's changing as I say, that's changing as I say, that's something that will develop and I trust that that will happen and that, you know, as I develop my voice, I suppose that I will naturally attract the people who need that, male or female, or you know anyone who needs that work. Mainly, the people that I love to work with are people who kind of have a purpose but have maybe felt purposeless or have felt felt like they've been put on hold by life. Often the people that come to work with me, um, they just feel like, um, something's happened that's pulled the rug out from under them or they've whether that be through illness, whether that be through grief, uh, loss, it can be.
Speaker 2:You know, work, it can be those kind of identity pieces, that that we feel like we play so many roles, especially by the time we get to middle age, whatever that is. You see, whatever number we put on that for ourselves, or whenever we recognize ourselves, we're in that stage of like, um, I've spent so long playing this role, being a manager, being a wife, a mother, um, you, whatever it is, or a high flyer, but you know, in terms of a lot of people that you work with, we put so much of our identity into these roles that we play, and then, if that role shifts and changes, then we're left feeling like, well, who am I without that, who am I without this title? Or who am I without? Even? It can be a caring role, or a parent, or you know so many things that, um, we can't identify with ourselves, or we feel like we've lost a piece of ourselves because that that role has gone, or that the way that we, as I say, identify ourselves and that's what often happens is people, um, they feel lost, to feel, um, you know, stuck, they feel like they've gone on hold, or they feel like I can't move forward. I don't know who I am anymore. I feel disconnected from life in some way, and I want to reconnect, uh, and I want to to, you know, get out of this feeling. I want to transform things. I need some help to move forward, and that's who often comes to me, um, and I love it, as I say, when you see that person, then turn around and um, I had a client, um, who is a teacher.
Speaker 2:She was she's in education when she came to me. She had a lot of physical symptoms, she was feeling down, she had some uh, you know, um, it's not necessarily mental health problems, but she had some low mood and physical symptoms and they exacerbated each other. And also she was feeling really fed up with um being in education, not that, you know, she loved working with the kids. She didn't like the politics and and a lot of the things that surrounded that um, and she was very disillusioned with it and was having some problems in her own family.
Speaker 2:There was so many things going on, um, that she decided to come and work with me and she did my three-month program, um, and she's done other things subsequently and what I love seeing now is that she truly is flourishing, she's living her best life and one of the main things with that is that she's then going on to um, she's learning how to teach mindfulness to kids, and she was doing that in her own time. She's then gone on to she's learning how to teach mindfulness to kids, and she was doing that in her own time. She's now being asked by her headmaster to do that, to add that to the school curriculum in her primary school and to help awaken kids and help kids become conscious so they don't get to their midlife and have crises or need to transform they. You know she's helping the next generation to to not have to do the work that we have to do on ourselves. So that's my um yeah, as I say, that's um, one of my best examples and I just love seeing people thrive and flourish and and and become all that they are in that way.
Speaker 2:And she had physical improvements and her relationships improved and obviously her working life's improved. So, you know, become all that they are in that way. And she had physical improvements and her relationships improved and obviously her working life's improved. So you know it impacts us all around and you know, ripples out to the people beyond us, whether that's your immediate family, whether that's your colleagues, her, you know, school kids and so on. So I get quite impassioned about that when I talk about these things.
Speaker 1:And so you should, because it's such a great mission that you've got Gwen, isn't it? To share out into the world to help people, you know, live their best life. And also the ripple effect of the work that both you and I do on so many levels is that whole holistic, intrinsic part of the person's life, in every area that they show up and they live and breathe. But then the ripple effect that they then pass on. So I teach, for example, should be teaching some of those children. Some of those children have got siblings, friends, cousins, etc, etc. And it just goes on and wider and wider and wider, and it just goes on and wider and wider and wider.
Speaker 1:Um, and you know the nature of that impact on the world is absolutely priceless and I'm just super grateful that you're one of the people that step up and do that, because I know what it's like when you're the person that does it first and then goes and teaches and leads. You've got to really embody what it is that you teach, to be able to be um authentic in yourself, especially in this field and in the work of personal growth and change and transformation. You've got to be able to, um, you know, walk the walk. It's important, isn't it?
Speaker 2:yeah, and also to know that we don't need to have all the answers, because I think that's the thing that holds us back sometimes, is that we feel like, oh, if I'm putting myself out there in this position or saying that I'm going to help you with this, um, does that mean I need to be perfect in all areas of my life, or does it need to I have to have it all? Suspect no, and and one thing that's a real theme as well is that, um, I'm a guide for other people. Um, you know I'm not saying um, you know I've got it perfect or I've done x, y and z, but I'm that little step further along the road and I'm holding a hand out to you to to bring them with me and they're teaching me as well. And I've just finished doing a short program with. You know it's an intimate program with a small group and at first I'll be honest, I was a oh, I would have liked more people.
Speaker 2:You know we've spoken about this before, but actually the people that got were perfect, and it was actually perfect for me as well, because that really kind of stretched and challenged me or opened things up for me in a different way, because I'm working in a different way, energetically, and to enable me for me to be able to hold space for them through their transformation, and also they kind of held space for me through mine to a certain degree.
Speaker 2:So you know, I've acknowledged them and said thank you for teaching me and showing me different aspects of my work through this. So it was really important in that way and, you know, I hope it's been transformational for them as well. But yeah, equally, that reflects back to me and and I'm grateful for that because the next program becomes different or or I, you know, move, my work moves in a different way, because I've seen what was possible through that and that's so I think it's good to know that, whilst we can be a teacher or a leader in some way, that we're equally open to them teaching and leading us and we're all learning together, and so we can let ourselves off the hook a little bit with that as well, that we don't have to have all the answers and be perfect, we can just. There's a phrase of we're all walking each other home and that's coming to the fore for some reason.
Speaker 2:So that might resonate with someone as well who feels like they want to do something like that, but maybe doesn't feel confident or ready. You might never, but you'll know when it's time yeah, I love that, gwen.
Speaker 1:So underneath the podcast will be all the notes and details of how to get a hold of Gwen and if you want to get a hold of her about this program, are you going to do the program again? Do you know where you are with that program? Have you got anything? How's the best way for people to get a hold of?
Speaker 2:you, the best way for people to get a hold of me, um is mainly through Facebook. I'm on LinkedIn and Instagram, facebook. Facebook is I've got a Facebook group, living your Best Life Soul, family, and my Facebook page, living your Best Life Coaching with Glendix, which is a bit long winded, but luckily the link's a bit shorter. And I do have a website, but the website's always a bit of a work in progress. So I would say, get in touch on Facebook or, as I say, if you want to connect on LinkedIn, um, I love expanding my, um, my network there as well, and and uh, and I like, actually I like to think, um, you know, when people like us are on on LinkedIn, we're sort of um and talking about different subjects and and and things that were shaking that up a little bit as well, and and I'm changing, changing my perspective of that because when I came into this role, linkedin, you know, was the place where people went for jobs or you went if you wanted to get another role similar to one you'd had, and so I found LinkedIn a little bit of a strange space at the time of like, oh, I don't really want to connect with it because that's people that I used to work with or that's my old world, the old me, and I didn't really want to do that.
Speaker 2:And now, through the, the networking that I do, now there's all sorts of people on LinkedIn doing all sorts of things and and it's an amazing place with lots of spiritual people, with lots of awakened conscious people, with healers and and all these sort of things, and with leaders in different types of ways. So, um, so yeah, connect with me on there as well and and open my eyes to what you guys do and how we can collaborate and co-create in that space and make it a different place as well to to maybe what it has been in the past. Um, so yeah, I'll share all my links that people can, can, um, can, connect with me after that yeah, we, all the notes will.
Speaker 1:All the links for Gwen will be under the show notes, so, as you're listening, just go back there and connect there and definitely follow and see what she's up to, because in Gwen's words, she's forever growing, evolving. She has, in the time that I've met her, known her. She's a different version than she was three, four months ago, um, and that's a testament to the work she does on herself to be able to hold the kind of people that she does, to be able to help them transform and change and flourish into their truly sensational life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what we'd add to.
Speaker 2:That is sorry, thanks for that.
Speaker 2:We'd also say if you're not sure you see a peacock, then you'll notice me, because my um brand logo is a peacock.
Speaker 2:You can see them behind me and you see peacock feathers, um, and that's very much a the embodiment of um that transformation, because I often see people when they come to me they're like peacocks, with their their tail feathers shut down and and afraid to show their our colors and afraid to kind of step into our power and be who we are. And we're quite um often, you know, uh, feeling hesitant to to be who we are or to know who we are, and then, once we can, can step into our own peacock, our fabulous self. Then then you know, literally the tail feathers come out and they can shine in all their colors and all their glory and be their own fabulous self and and strut about a bit more and be more confident and and be more flourishing and sensational. So, as I say, that's the way to know if you're hitting the right space, if you see this um purple peacock beside my name if you see that you've got to contact gwen um.
Speaker 1:The last, the last question that I wanted to ask you, which is what I ask every one of my guests, which is about um, is there a book that you have read or listened to, um, that has helped you on this journey of self-discovery or becoming fearless, or something like that?
Speaker 2:yeah, definitely, and the book that came to mind I've actually got it there um is believe. It was the believe um it's believed by live and raffle canyon and and the belief releasing process, um, and actually I was thinking about it just before we came on to have this chat, but I wouldn't know you if it wasn't for belief um, because that's how I know amanda, who you know, introduced us us, and so it has been transformational. And again, I haven't read it cover to cover. I know a lot, I know the principles of it and I teach a lot of the principles of it. So the main part of Believe is what's called the Believe releasing process and it's how we, how you, discover your higher who.
Speaker 2:I work with my higher self and introduce my clients to their higher self and through that relationship with their higher self we reconnect to ourselves. We connect to a low stored vibration and how that impacts us and affects us through our life. We release ourself um low-steroid vibrations, so we raise our vibration um, and it kind of takes on the work of abraham hicks and and jerry and esther hicks um in a new way, and so people often come to it through manifesting law of attraction, these types of things, and then it just takes on in a whole different direction, and so that was transformational and life-changing for me, um, discovering that book and discovering their work and this community. And, as I say, we wouldn't know each other and be having this conversation if it wasn't for that book. So it's very apt. I chose that book as the one that was transformational for me and really empowered me yeah, really empowered me, yeah, but for certain, and I haven't read that book.
Speaker 1:So I'm definitely going to go and get that on my list of books to read for certain.
Speaker 1:So thank you so so much, um, for chatting, gwen. I know we could have kept going, um, but I'm hoping that people listening have got a flavor of, um, how you can really um at any age whatever we want to call this midlife age at any time really, you can step into a whole different life. And if you like what Gwen does and how she helps and how she really supports in a very, very nurturing way, then please do get in touch with her, because I personally have experienced Gwen's wisdom when we did some work for each other and it was magical. So definitely get in touch with her, because I personally have experienced gwen's wisdom, um, when we did some work for each other and it was magical. So definitely get in touch with her if you um feel like it's there's a pull, there's something going. Actually, I just I'm not quite sure what I want to talk to you about, but something definitely follow your nudge. It's something gwen and I both talk about.
Speaker 2:Follow your nudge absolutely following the breadcrumbs and falling those nudges and listening to them. Yeah, absolutely, and so thank you so much. That's been great to chat to you and thank you for this opportunity you are so welcome.
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